User talk:Flowtron

Admin
Hello flowtron. Is it possible for me to trial as an admin of the wiki? I would like to get a little more standing on the wiki, and i do believe my contributions speak for themselves. I am an avid editor and take pride in my edits. Thank you in advance. --DrauL 14:40; 10 December 2010 (+0800 GMT)

Uhmm, what exactly do you mean by "better standing", I mean, how much better can it get than being recognized as a prime-contributor? You're already a wiki-Sergeant; what more permissions do you actually need? --Flowtron 16:53, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, well, my use of the term may not have been right in that situation. In better context: I would like to see what i could keep up to date with more standing. I could add more editors to the wiki when requests are relevant for access on the forums, and block abusers. (Even with the lack thereof.) Even though, in reality i do not need the permissions, i would like to get them, even as just a trial to see if it would work in your favour, with not having to spend so much of your own time on the wiki. People recognising me as a prime contributer would be an advantage as well.
 * --DrauL 20:22 12 December 2010 (+0800 GMT)
 * For becoming a "prime contributor" only one thing is relevant: edits. Nevertheless in my opinion this clan leader thingy doesnt really work. The people are only interested in creating a (crappy) clan page. Only a few people are really interested in doing some work on other articles and only one or two are creating sometimes a new article. That's really a shame. We just need more contributors. --Apollo 22:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, in fact it's exactly what I've been talking to Bull3t about - he's been offering to take on managing the clan-list thread & organizational aspects related to that. I was actually contemplating omitting all the clan-pages when we re-birthed the wiki and limiting the clan aspect to the list .. but that would've never worked. There's too many teenage boys in this community that we can't expect there'd be no ego-stroking going on :-P ... and yes - what I meant by "prime contributor" is someone who does great work (for the _entire_ community) --Flowtron 23:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I do believe I do work for the entire community. When i create pages, like the 4th Mapping Contest it was one of those pages that are quite relevant to everyone, I also unorphaned many pages as well as removing dead links and dead end pages.Those lists have become dramatically smaller. Sorry for my delayed reply also, i have recently moved house and am having troubler with my laptop. Luckily they have a PC, even though it is usally off limits. --DrauL 10:22 14 December 2010 {+0800}
 * DrauL, that was what I was alluding to by my question: how much better could your standing get? I saw your list of contributions - it's more diverse than most - you _are_ a top contributor!--Flowtron 13:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)\
 * Thanks, and I can stick with this. Bit tired, may write a full fledged response later. --DrauL 9:03 17 December 2010 (+0800 GMT)

Editing "Quo Vadis"
Adding my two cents: Responding to "The people are only interested in creating a (crappy) clan page [...] creating sometimes a new article.": I know that I for one would be a bigger contributor than normal if I knew exactly what needed to be done. When scanning the wiki, I do make occasional edits (such as typos on the mapping contests), but I never know exactly what we need. If I knew what we needed, I could help much more than I do now. Maybe a todo/wish list would be helpful? If not maybe clearer directions as to where you want the wiki to go. The best way to get action is so people know what action needs to happen. A wish list might be nice for people who dont know about the topic, but notice a page needs to be made. By the way DrauL, please use capital "i"s ;) --Ronald Reagan 08:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Moved this into it's own paragraph, since the old got sort of ultra-indented anyway and you actually started more of a new topic than what was discussed in 'Admin'. RR, did you see Wiki Page Requests-Thread on the forum? That's where the community can request stuff to write about; in general the wiki was always meant to be a supplement - sometimes Apollo even makes an argument for it becoming exclusive - to the offline-documentation. Apollo has a point with reducing redundancy, but providing offline documentation is also part of the low-tech paradigm under which AC has always existed. Some of our players might have a dial-up connection to the internet, so a few KB of diskspace is better for them. The wiki here should discuss CubeScript in examples, detail and on any meta-level anyone wants to talk about, it should contain HowTos, links to resources and explanations on how to get going with modeling, skybox creation, texture generation, mapping and anything else the core documentation doesn't go into detail about. Some of this might then make it into the offline docs - but they should always be kept "without frills", since (in my experience) the more words you use the less likely people will even try to read it .. but they'll come badgering you for the information you took care to explain in detail anyway - hence the splitting up makes so much sense again - just a few links from the offline docs to parts of the wiki and continuous referencing of either when a FAQ is re-asked on the forum ... ey, presto, every player knows everything they ever wanted to know about the game; and we'll all be nice to each other all the time too! ;-) --Flowtron 16:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

New main page
Hello flowtron! I've been working on a new main page in my sandbox. I believe it is a lot better than the old one, as it is not just a list of links. It is a list of links with headings, some of which I've reorganized slightly. See it at User:Gibstick/sandbox. If you approve, I will continue work in this direction. Eventually, I hope to make something like .--Gibstick 22:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that audacity-Main_Page looks a lot more intuitive & ready for someone to "jump in" than our wordy paragraphs .. some parts on the current page may be better placed on a new/seperate page - your restructuring is only just beginning; but the more obvious headers already help getting a better overview for first-timers. Keep going, Brigadier - again, you thoroughly deserved that promotion :-) --Flowtron 15:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Rank Change
Hello Flowtron, as I am no longer a leader or Exile Unit, could you please promote Orynge to Sergeant? Do with my access what you will, I'm currently clanless and just doing spontaneous edits. -- DrauL 14:30 20 January 2011 (+0800 GMT)

Clan Pages
Heyo Flowtron, since it seems like I'm doing most of the clan page editing/adding now a days, I have a couple questions. I'm bound to come up with more questions, but thanks for answering! If there is anything more I should know about, please tell me :) --Ronald Reagan 02:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If a clan wants a picture, should I just upload and post it in the template for them?
 * How strict are the 3v3 rules? Can it be a 2v2? What exactly is the purpose for this rule so I can interpet it better (I can come up with some possible explanations, probably not the ones you were thinking of though).
 * How would I put translation to a different language (they provided the translated text)? Would I just make a new ==Header== ? I cannot possibly fix any errors or make any editing fixes to the text, as I pretty much speak only one language.
 * I didn't come up with the 3v3-rule, that was something that came about on the old forum (2008) by the people then handling this procedure; it basically has the same background as my "3-month-old minimum"-rule for granting Sergeant permissions - just to weed out those that make you do work for nothing, clans that got created yesterday and are dead tomorrow. Regarding the pictures you should use common-sense - you know I'm no fan of using the wiki for clan-ads, so I'm assuming you're talking about their logo/icon, that's fine (if not inappropriate in itself) just make sure the format/filesize is web-oriented (no 4.32 MB .bmp!). Translations are handled by adding "_(NN)" where "NN" is the language-code, e.g. for Main Page in italian Main Page (it). Actually, just look at the wiki-source of those two variants of the same page to see how it's done, especially about including the language-selection-table at the top! HTH --Flowtron 08:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification! It turns out the logo they wanted me to use is has blatant possible copy-right issue. original their logo. I'll figure out the translations once I get enough time. It is not on the highest of my priorities. Only help I needed was figuring out what HTH meant ;-) --Ronald Reagan 23:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, sorry; some acronyms just become 2nd nature - I sometimes come across ones not in my repertoire, then I just ask pages like Hope That Helps ;-) --Flowtron 13:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Assaultcuberank page fix
I noticed that in the page AssaultCubeRank, you made some really bizarre looking errors in the "General" section, here are my fixes: ===General=== Wahnfred, Brahma, Ärkefiende, MakkE, Apollo, RandumKiwi, Mr.Floppy, jamz... Most of what I did was capitalize Wahnfred and MakkE's names, corrected "jamz"s name, and fixed the formatting. I assumed you wanted ellipses, so I used elipses after jamz, not a period. If this could be fixed, it would make one of the more representative pages of the wiki look nicer :) --Ronald Reagan 08:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the nudge - but actually, I only changed jamz to be lowercase now too - since both wahnfred & makkE spell their nicknames just like they are now. That page isn't yet fully up to speed, also it's not been connected to anything yet, so I don't get how you can call it "one of the more representative" pages. And actually, this should've gone onto that pages Talk:section ;-) --Flowtron 13:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Warning box
Browsing wikipeadia the other day, I noticed that they had warning boxes. Do you think we could use something like this? I threw something together on my user sandbox User:Ronald_Reagan/sandbox It looks like:

I haven't gotten an image yet to use, so I just used the logo.


 * We have already notification boxes like: Template:Ambox_content; there is also parent box class which can be changed in that suggested way. --Apollo 21:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I started thinking about this last night and realized that we probably also do have these, it just not used on the pages I have seen lately. However, this was too late (I was already brushing my teeth for bed), before I could go back and check. --Ronald Reagan 21:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)